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Sanders RUS
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:42:00 -
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Its a terrible plan, what CCP is doing effectively relegates titans to no clear purpose until they have the time to spend on deciding on a role for them. This takes a game that was moderately broken in favor of titan blobs and breaks it in completely the other direction making titans useless until a rebalance. In effect you're giving subcap heavy alliances carte blanche to expand their holdings until you can get around to giving titans a clear role again.. It may be broken now, but CCP should be investing the time and resources to give titans a clear role rather than kicking those 1200 pilots in the nuts and with promises of 'we'll make your 90b ship useful again someday'. They've nerfed titan EHP, taken away the drone bay, made them unable to DD subcaps, and now making them effectively a sieged dreadnaught w/o the siege module. Titan pilots have a right to be pissed about this, this is pretty 'old ccp' behavior here we dont pay to play a game based on 'good things to come'. |
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:30:00 -
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Vellamo Lyr wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:the general design intent of EVE is that you get diminishing returns for progressively higher investments. We always turn away the 3rd and 4th fleet of drakes because of diminishing returns. LMAO.
Eventually you run out of racial slurs for fleet names, its more an issue with creativity than numbers man |
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:16:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:BioZvin wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:Actually, Greyscale went to Cambridge, and while we haven't IQ tested him yet, I'm pretty sure he'd score high  I am sorry in advance here, but could we get some indication from CCP that we are being heard here. Put a lot of time into this game and really would ratter not be forced to leave because I feel like CCP only listens to Goons. I know they say we are less people then they are, but they don't number 345000 like they would have us believe. We're absolutely listening. Titans are an anti-cap/supercap ship and we need to limit their ability to kill subcaps. That's a change that's happening and is unlikely to change. The practical details on how that happens we'd love as much feedback on as possible. We've been talking about the lock timers this morning based on feedback from the playerbase, looking at what adjustments we can possibly make. The changes in the OP are still subject to change if we get feedback on how to achieve our goal better.
So dreads and supercaps are anti structure ships within the current nullsec warring. So titans are just supposed to sit around and wait for someone to shoot structures?
I feel that nerfing supers to uselessness is rather myopic will only lead to less dynamic gameplay. There needs to be an ability to counter titans, but fights should not be reduced to who can field the most subcaps. I think that is a poor direction especially for pilots who have spent years training into these ships and want them to be used. However, CCP seems ok with saying to the 800 or so titan pilots that they would much rather keep their subcap customers happy (even though must of them have no clue about capital combat or why a titan could blap a MWDing drake).
To me this general direction is bad for eve online, tracking probably needed a nerf, but now it'll take 18 seconds to even lock another titan with three cormack sebos's (Who the hell balances around 3 meta 14 sebos?). Base Titan scanres will be a third of a sieged dreadnaught. I feel that taken together with the previous nerfs CCP is driving titan pilots to mothball their ships. Theres really no significant reason to fly a titan and the only thing they have to look forward to is some vague promise of changes down the road. Well Ive seen how long it takes CCP to get back to things like gallente ship balancing or faction warfare and Im not to keen on waiting around that long for titans to be useful again.
This wasnt something so critical that it needed to be addressed outside of a thoughtful look at the ship and its role in fleets. |
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:22:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:
We would be totally happy with an outcome where people stop expanding their titan fleet. It shouldn't be coming as a huge surprise to anyone that, all other things being equal, we would prefer a situation where there were fewer titans in EVE.
People who're augmenting their fleet strength with supers we're OK with, and they should continue to be OK after this change. We're not happy with situations where supercaps are making up the bulk of the fleet strength. If that's becoming less viable, then this is a desirable outcome for us.
In other words your totally fine with titan pilots unsubscribing their accounts because you've made their ships not fun for them to fly. You're not throwing them any bones here to keep them flying the big ships that they are locked into so they should either sell it or moth ball it until you can devote development time. It saddens me that you're writing off your veteran players as acceptable losses. |
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